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...UPSET

Sun May 2, 2010, 8:27 AM
  • Mood: b0x0rz-less
  • Listening to: Lady Gaga - BAD ROMANCE
  • Watching: AVATAR
  • Drinking: GREEN TEA


-will re assume this journal once everything is cleared up-

I have to apologize that my reactions might take too far, but I think this will be the best for me and all artists to await for solid proof and photographs, so this way we can clear up everything altogether and prevents from all misunderstandings that might occur through each communication.



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:icondesleane:
Desleane Featured By Owner May 3, 2010
Let be the situation clear up, or you have to beat 'em =\
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:iconkeyko020988:
keyko020988 Featured By Owner May 3, 2010  Hobbyist Artist
No way some one using yopur art??omg what an asshole!!!!
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:iconshadowknightpaladin:
shadowknightpaladin Featured By Owner May 3, 2010  Student General Artist
D: Gosh. This is happening a lot lately DDD:
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:iconsobaku-no-sarah:
Sobaku-no-Sarah Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
i've noticed a pattern that most art theft occurs around spring or early summer. WHY? are these art thieves just around more in spring? it's RIDICULOUS.
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:iconaberleigh:
Aberleigh Featured By Owner May 3, 2010
I think its the point of they have more time getting off of school
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:iconrhi-r:
Rhi-R Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
You are really handling this nobly. You're a very good person :hug: I hope this gets resolved soon xxxxxxxxx
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:iconneko-fayth:
Neko-Fayth Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Aww Kuma honey, this is awful ;; *cuddle*I hope everything resolves legally and they don't try anything again or anyone else.
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:iconnanasfreak:
NanasFreak Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
I'm a little confused about what happened. e__e;;
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:iconfishdirt:
Fishdirt Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
All I know is if someone commissions you for artwork they have a complete right to resell it BUT they do not own the copyright to make reproductions for sale and neither does anyone who buys the artwork afterwards. It's sad but luckily there is a huge fan base to keep track. This makes me think I should create, for myself, a COA with a clause of copyright to avoid repros.

Also this is very cool about handling as there are two sides to every story. I hope everything works out.
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:icongoofoofighter:
goofoofighter Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Professional General Artist
I can only guess what happened, but I send my best wishes. Hope everything works out in the end~ :hug:
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:iconslavicwolf:
SlavicWolf Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
:hug:
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:iconkogaiji:
kogaiji Featured By Owner May 2, 2010   Digital Artist
Ok I found you something, that's probably not enough but that's the best I can do to help you to solve this problem I'm afraid.

[link]

I hope the link would work and the quality would be good enough.
I'm the Deidara on this photograph (as you can check on my own page ^^), you can see your original drawing on the wall and the sketching carefully protected on the table.
I can give you the name of the artists if you want to check she has the right to use everything but that's all I have for you, sorry I can't do more.
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:iconecthelian:
Ecthelian Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This's good enough, hon. Thanks for your effort.

That would be great if you can also give me the name of the artists that give you the right to reproduce their artworks. I'll ask the commissioner again if she can take more photographs to reassure to everyone.

Wish the best to all of us to resolve this problem and misunderstanding together.
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:iconfaust-obsessed:
Faust-Obsessed Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
D:!! So, it was someone who paid you for artwork and then at a convention resold it or made prints out of your work? Either way, that's terrible. ;__;
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:iconecthelian:
Ecthelian Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm still awaiting for more proofs to reassure myself (as well as the other artists, too). So for now, please don't misjudge on anything ;;v;; :heart:
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:iconfaust-obsessed:
Faust-Obsessed Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
-Hug.- I understand. I hope for the best on it. D: ♥
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:iconleen00chan:
leen00chan Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
I'm sorry to hear that something like that happend to you D: I hope this matter can be resolved quickly.
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:iconmcmitters:
McMitters Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm sorry something like that happened to you. I hope you find some sort of solution soon. :( *hug*
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:iconerwayji:
ERwAyJi Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
I really don't understand why there's people who does something like this... .___. I just don't get it... Is it that hard to respect the original artist? =/ Oh, well...
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:icon626elemental:
626elemental Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
That's awful!
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:iconthecreativejenn:
TheCreativeJenn Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
No one is safe, theft just doesn't stop. :shrug: For every light there is a shadow, sadly. Yin/Yang speaks for itself.
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:iconkogaiji:
kogaiji Featured By Owner May 2, 2010   Digital Artist
I'm shocked.
Not by the story but by the stupid reactions of people who don't have any single idea of the story but still like having an opinion.

First guys, stop talking about theft when we are talking about something for which Ecthelian has been payed.
Secondly, I was there, even if I'm not the one concerned, and let me tell you she had never sell anything with this work ! The things which were for sale were only with the agreement of the creators(it's something easy to check if you don't believe me), those of Ecthelian were there only to give ideas of design and fill a little bit the space on the table, and she went back after the convention with everything.

And I'm sorry to be rude Ecthelian, but even like this, no one even asked to buy any of your artwork, so all this story sounds hillarious to me...
I can't believe she was always talking about your art everytime people came, just for this ungrateful reaction...
You should maybe check what people say before insulting people who trully admire and respect you work.
Don't misunderstand me, I understand your reaction and I probably would have reacted the same way, but here there is absolutely no reason. I'm trying to find a way to prove you what I'm saying even if I know it's going to be hard and also you may think this is not my business..

I'm sure my word means absolutely nothing for you but at least I would have say what I have to say.
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offcolor Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Professional Filmographer
I can't tell if you're trying to be helpful, or just be an ass. There's no reason for the attitude, or to sneak insults in toward Ecthelian under the radar. Professionalism is probably appreciated if it's all a misunderstanding.

And speaking of professionalism, her reaction isn't "ungrateful" at all. You said that you understand and would have reacted the same way. Contradicting yourself much?

Furthermore, this is a circumstance where it would've been at least common courtesy to ask her before using the art in such a fashion. Just because the commissioner paid for the art, doesn't give her free domain. It would make sense to let the artist know beforehand and stomp out misunderstandings like this before they can arise. Let's not pretend that every artist out there would react as nicely about this as Ecthelian, who has responded to you in nothing but a polite manner.
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:iconecthelian:
Ecthelian Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Dear Kogaiji

Thanks for your explanation. I still hesitate to believe which side is true since I wasn't there at the convention and witness by myself, and my curiosity goes too far than I expected (and I know my work isn't that great enough to resell it anyway, I'm just curious what was going on and really happened there?).

I didn't mean to offend anyone. At this rate, I still trust the person who commissioned me but still wait more for solid proofs to reassure myself. If there's a proof which I can see, then I'll make a big apology for you guys for sure.

I'm really sorry if my reaction offends to one of you :(
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:iconkogaiji:
kogaiji Featured By Owner May 2, 2010   Digital Artist
Ok let me check in my photographs of this day if I can find a proof...
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:iconecthelian:
Ecthelian Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you so much for your effort and time. You can send them to me via DA note. I'll close up this journal for now until everything is much cleared up for the best of everyone.

Thanks again!
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:iconchristi-chan:
christi-chan Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Here's a :hug:.
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:iconmikhal-strange:
Mikhal-Strange Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
:hug:
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:iconnighttattoowolf:
NightTattooWolf Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
*wolfie hugs* I am sorry that this happened to you. No artist should go through this.
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:icondesidum:
Desidum Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
That sucks, hope your situation gets better.
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:iconvinnie14:
Vinnie14 Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah man :iconyuumei: has recently been a victim of art theft

and now another awesome artist such as yourself has be victimized by someone using your work for profit

I really hope this will be resolved for you
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:iconecthelian:
Ecthelian Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, I hope things should get resolved soon and hope that's all my misunderstanding. ;;__;; If this only my misunderstanding, then I'll make apology to the person I'm curious for sure.

Whether it's true or not, but I'm strongly against anyone who makes profit out of the other people works without their given permission.
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:iconvinnie14:
Vinnie14 Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah i know what you mean.
hopefully he/she will make an agreement/proposition to make some business into promoting your work and giving you most of the profit from it. Or just stop this completely if he/she wont be civil about it
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:iconsovereigncookies:
SovereignCookies Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Student
is there anything you can do about it? Are you reporting it?

This is why I started watermarking my photographs. Which sucks because I feel the marks distract from the photos (which my style is all about minimalism and simplicity)

if you aren't creative enough to create your own art, don't steal others. :star:
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:iconkogaiji:
kogaiji Featured By Owner May 2, 2010   Digital Artist
Adding watermark to something that have been payed would have been quite ridiculous I'm afraid.
Yes, I've said "payed". Could all this just be a ******* misunderstanding ?
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:iconsovereigncookies:
SovereignCookies Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Student
meaning something you got paid for? sorry I think I don't understand what you mean.
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:iconkogaiji:
kogaiji Featured By Owner May 2, 2010   Digital Artist
The art Ecthelian is talking about is a commission she made for someone that's why she could add a watermark on it ^^
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:iconsovereigncookies:
SovereignCookies Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Student
oh that makes sense.

why are people full of such suck and fail! >_<
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:icona-whitewolf-in-black:
A-WhiteWolf-in-Black Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
OMG, not more art theft issues...I'm so tired of this happening to good artists and it seems to take forever, if it ever even is, to be resolved :\

I'm so sorry you have to deal with this and sounding like its from someone you know too.....awful.
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a-kwa Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
Commercial theft even worse than art theft, as we discussed before!
We'll find a way to solve this Kuma. I swear it W.

I hate art theives, and I like to make them suffer. Commercial thieves, they'll have to pay hard for it >_>. *raises a flag TEAM KUMA*
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:iconecthelian:
Ecthelian Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
*raises a flag back *SUPPORT THE TRUE ARTISTS* to Akwa ;;---;;

Yeah...Commercial theft is worse than art theft, totally 100% agree with you.
We'll, dear...we'll find a way together, hopefully ;;_;;
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:icona-kwa:
a-kwa Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
"I'm pissed off, that's it."

[link]
Me trying to make you feel better. I mean, I did bring the bad news to you OTL|||
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:iconecthelian:
Ecthelian Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
UUuuh ;;_;; thanks for the nice drawing, hon!
But for now I'll close down my journal until everything is cleared up, thanks again for your concern and everything!
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ohmonah Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Professional Filmographer
Ahh I'm so sorry...the art world is full of cold heartless dogs who are selfish and want to only promote themselves...I hope things get better :hug:
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:iconaziell:
Aziell Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
*Hugs* I'm so sorry to heard this happened to you.Hope you'll solve this soon ._.
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:iconecthelian:
Ecthelian Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sissi......T__T *glomp*
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:iconaziell:
Aziell Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
*takes in her lap and cuddles*
I'd say kick this person very hard.Some people need a lesson >_>.....
Plus you are such a sweet girl and don't deserve this at all!
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:icondarkn2ght:
darkn2ght Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
go strangle d 'friend' :(
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:iconmaggy-mitchi:
Maggy-mitchi Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
you're right!
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:iconchibi-narusegawa:
Chibi-Narusegawa Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know I would be upset too. Art theft is so wrong... I just don't know why people think it's alright to do whatever they want with someone else's work... I hope this is the last time you have to deal with this :heart:
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